people seemed utterly unethical there to me. i've never worked with so many liars before. the air just reeked of insincerity. there also didn't seem to be much vision there, people were so heads down about drilling into their problem domains that they gave short shrift to larger issues. i personally filed a bug that ms exchange needed protection against e-mailed viruses, only to have the issue blown off by management. that was a poor choice, MS.